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Dr. Gundry (02:12):
Welcome to the Dr. Gundry Podcast. What if you were constantly carrying around a ticking health time bomb in your pocket? You’d probably want to get rid of it, right? Turns out, that scenario is not actually as crazy as it sounds. Because just a couple years ago, the National Toxicology Program, which is part of the National Institutes of Health, released a paper detailing how high levels of cell phone radiation cause cancerous tumors in rats. Now, rats aren’t people, but the report is certainly eye-opening.
Well, my guest today says we have a lot that we should be educated about, and it’s not just cell phones, either. He’s Arthur Calenge, the founder and CEO of Lambs, a company that designs and sells Faraday boxers to help men protect their reproductive organs from harmful radiation. We’re going to talk about Faraday in a minute, so stay tuned.
On today’s episode, Art and I are going to talk about the dangers of EMFs, the truth about 5G and what you can do today to start protecting yourself and your family. Art, welcome to the Dr. Gundry Podcast.

Arthur Calenge (03:31):
Hi, Dr. Gundry. Happy to be here.

Dr. Gundry (03:33):
What are EMFs and how could they possibly be causing health problems? I mean, they’re everywhere. Come on.

Arthur Calenge (03:42):
EMF stands for electromagnetic fields or electromagnetic frequencies. A lot of you guys probably heard about it as their names for consumers, which are cell phone radiation, wi-fi, Bluetooth and microwave radiation as well. EMF today are what are powering all of the information exchange that happens wirelessly. When your cell phone connects to the cell tower and gets your email updates, your Google maps and connects you for your phone call, that’s essentially EMF doing their job. Similarly, when your computer is connected to the internet, the wi-fi is a form of EMF. If you’re wearing any type of tracker such as a fitness tracker, it’s connected as well thanks to electromagnetic frequencies.
It’s literally everywhere. A couple more examples. Your car, especially if you have, say a Tesla, is connected most of the times through wireless radiation. Your home, if you have a Google Assistant or Alexa or any type of connected devices in your home, that would be connected through EMF radiation as well.
As you said, they’re literally everywhere and it’s been growing exponentially. To give you a sense, we’re currently at 25 billion active connected devices in the world. Bear in mind that’s five times more than the world population, roughly. It’s expected to grow to 75 billion by 2025. We’re really on an exponential curve when it comes to this exposure to EMF radiation.
Why would that be potentially an issue? Well, there’s been today a number of studies linking exposure to wireless radiation, or EMF, with adverse health effects including higher risks of cancer, lower sperm count and altogether, a higher susceptibility to develop oxidative stress, which is the root cause of many diseases that can develop longterm. We can get into the specifics of the mechanisms that have been documented if you’re interested.

Dr. Gundry (06:19):
I think why don’t we do that, because my viewers and listeners love research but they really want to know why do these signals bouncing around… Why is this happening at a cellular level? How come?

Arthur Calenge (06:42):
What’s been documented at a cellular level… And bear in mind I’m not a doctor so I’m going to try my best to explain what I’ve been understanding from people who are way, way smarter than I am, but essentially at a cellular level, EMF radiation are polarized waves, meaning they’re carrying a charge. So are your cellular membranes. When a polarized charge coming with EMF is hitting your cell, this is taken as a form of external aggression by your cells, which experience a change in polarization. This essentially is a fertile ground for oxidative stress and free radicals to multiply, which can cause cascades to a variety of problems such as cancer, cardiovascular diseases and so on and so forth.
We actually did a very interesting study recently. This was a pre-study, actually, because we’re in the process of designing the full study with a variety of people. But we tested this on six people. We tested the heart rate variability over heart rate ratio, which is a good indication of whether your body is in rest and digest mode or fight and flight mode. Essentially, a sense of where your immune system is at.
What we found with those volunteers is that the moment they would start a phone call, their body would get into fight and flight. The body immune system would get into fight and flight mode. If we’re blocking the radiation with Lambs, the body would get back into rest and digest within 10 minutes and stay in this state even if we’re exposing them to cell phone radiation afterwards.
Altogether, I’m sure your listeners can imagine how much better it is for the body to be in rest and digest as much as possible over fight and flight. That’s kind of the nutshell in terms of mechanism as to what’s been documented as going on, which is the body, your cells, take this as an external form of aggression. Your body reacts and this can cause a variety of issue in the longterm by accumulating oxidative stress. Obviously, the body is able to get rid of oxidative stress. It’s just a compounding effect of this coupled with all the other potential factors that put stress on the body which at the end of the day, is going to have an impact. So eating meat, exposure to pollution, et cetera et cetera.

Dr. Gundry (09:44):
So it’s not the cell phone that’s stressing me out, is what you’re saying. It’s the…

Arthur Calenge (09:54):
Well, the cell phone might stress you out as well, but that would be probably a different mechanism here. But yeah, it’s the polarized frequency which is interacting with your overall body ability to stay in check when it comes to your immune system. That’s the underlying root which can cause bigger issues to develop, depending on where your underlying health problem might lie.

Dr. Gundry (10:28):
Let’s dive down into that a little bit more. You basically have said, and everybody kind of knows, that we’re surrounded by this radiation. You’re probably on wi-fi right now talking to me.

Arthur Calenge (10:42):
I am.

Dr. Gundry (10:43):
I’m broadcasting with probably Bluetooth across the room to my receiver. Is proximity important? In other words, is this a whole lot worse than this?

Arthur Calenge (11:01):

Dr. Gundry (11:02):
For people who are listening, I’m holding my cell phone to my ear and then I’m holding it away at arm’s length. Describe that very thing.

Arthur Calenge (11:12):
The amount of exposure that you have to wireless radiation decreases by the square of the distance to your device. What that means is the farther away you are from the source emitting radiation, you get exponentially less exposure to radiation. If you’re holding your cell phone a feet away from you versus two feet away from you, you’re not getting twice as little the amount of radiation. You’d get a factor of 10 less radiation between the two options.
So distance is definitely very, very important. This is why some devices probably have more impact than others, including cell phone radiation, because we carry them on or body all day at exposure levels that have been untested before as to the impact on the human body for long terms. The current exposure levels that are recommended by the FCC, or rather imposed by the FCC, were set in the 1990s, back in the days where if you had a cell phone, you would probably use it for a few minutes a day max and not necessarily have it on your body 24 hours of the day, except maybe for sleeping.

Dr. Gundry (12:51):
Specifically now, I mean is there data that cell phone radiation affects sperm count in men?

Arthur Calenge (13:00):
Well, it’s an interesting topic to navigate. There has been a lot of research done on the subject, but there is also a lot of lobbying done as far as information goes. The overall research that came out on sperm shows that men keeping their cell phone in their pocket for more than four hours per day experience a very significant decrease in sperm count, up to 50% decrease, compared to men who do not carry their cell phone in their pocket.
Obviously, this is epidemiological studies and therefore, you have to control for other factors. This is when there is ground for discussion around how valid are those studies. But when you’re looking at a variety of thousands of people that are comprising those studies, you start to get a picture. You look at numbers that are as big as this, you start to get a picture of how bad that can be.
We can link this with the fact that we’ve been… Over the past 15 years, men’s fertility have decreased by about 30% and keep on decreasing. I personally doubt that wireless radiation is the only factor, but it certainly is probably one of the factors that is impacting people here. As a matter of fact, we’re actually working with a startup trying to help men freeze their sperm in case they want to procreate at later stages in life. This startup called Legacy that we’re working with was telling us that 75% of the men that they test actually have too low of a sperm count to be considered to be healthy. Their strong belief is that wireless radiation is one of the main factors impacting this. If you’re a man and you’re trying to procreate, that might just be a factor that you want to be eliminating from your daily routine.

Dr. Gundry (15:24):
And conversely, if you’re a woman and want safe sex, maybe you should have your mate have two cell phones in both pockets.

Arthur Calenge (15:35):
I’ve heard that. I’ve heard that. Whenever we deliver that speech, we have people being like, “All right. I need to get as many smart phones that I can.”

Dr. Gundry (15:47):
Speaking of women, women carry their cell phones, in general, in purses. Is there any data on cell phone use in women and ovarian or breast cancer?

Arthur Calenge (16:00):
It’s interesting. You probably know this better than I do, but there has been a lot more studies done on men than on women. I think this is all across the board of a lot of scientific fields, where a lot of women are considered to be men with different genitals when it’s actually a bit more complex than that. Not getting into the specifics here. There has been some studies, way less than for men, as to the impact. It looks like from a reproductive perspective, women are impacted as well.
Now, the main concern with female is that contrary to men whose sperm gets created every three months, essentially, for women you have all of your ovocytes created at birth and carried in your ovaries for the rest of your lifetime. Even though the studies that have been done so far are still… It still isn’t clear as to the exact impact that it has on the ovocytes. It looks like it does have an impact, and then the impact could actually be for your lifetime which could be very, very serious as well.
When it comes to breast cancer, similarly, very little studies have been realized on the subject. I know that there has been a lot of articles about women reporting developing breast cancer after carrying around their cell phone in their bra at a specific place. This is isolated cases. I don’t know what it says on a more global scale. But there has been a number of studies reporting higher risk of brain cancer, higher risk of cancer, higher risk of glioma altogether when carrying a cell phone on your body. I would expect that this can translate to breast cancer as well.

Dr. Gundry (18:08):
What do you say to people who are skeptical about all this? I know you get these questions all the time. Certainly, large corporations would want us to think that there’s absolutely no evidence that cell phone towers are dangerous, cell phones are dangerous, wi-fi, dangerous. It’s all one of those great “Oh, come on.” What say you?

Arthur Calenge (18:39):
I would reply, look at what was happening with tobacco just a few years ago. 60 years ago, strong evidence that tobacco was dangerous for your health had appeared in the 1950s. It took about 15 years between the moment the scientific evidence were here and the moment when the US general surgeon finally published an article in 1964 saying that yes, tobacco do cause cancer.
This lag is obviously attributed to the fact that the tobacco lobbies were very, very powerful and were using a lot of misinformation campaign around this issue. They actually kept doing this for a long time. I think they’re still doing it and putting into question, how do you call this, secondhand smoking.

Dr. Gundry (19:40):
Secondhand smoke, yeah.

Arthur Calenge (19:42):
Yeah. Which is one of the things that they’re still claiming is not a thing. There has been a lot of pressure put on the government, on those institution, by the tobacco industry. The wireless industry has been reported to do the same thing. There’s been a great article published in The Guardian that people can look from Mark Hertsgaard and Mark Dowie. I’ve probably botched their names, but they conducted a very interesting investigative study where they’ve documented all the steps that the wireless communication lobbies have been taking in order to get a lot of people to have this reaction of “Come on, that’s not a thing.” But if you actually look at the dat, there is over 1600 peer-reviewed scientific studies linking strong health adverse effects with wireless radiation.
Interestingly, the industry actually funded a study called the Interphone study which had a 24 million-dollar budget, one of the biggest study of the world on the topic. The Interphone study ended up finding that the heaviest cell phone users were 80% more likely to develop glioma and similarly, that individuals who had owned a cell phone for 10 years or longer saw their risk of glioma increase by nearly 120%. Part of the industry-funded studies did show some of those risks.
Dr. Henry Lai studied the impact of the source of funding on the result of the studies. What he found is that if you look at the overall numbers of studies, you’d see that about 55% of them show a risk associated wireless radiation. But if you correct for studies that are funded by the wireless industry, then this number skyrockets to rather about 70%.
To the people saying that’s not a thing, I would strongly advise to take a look at the available research out there and correct for the industry factor as well. And I’m saying this, I’m an industry factor but you can find very good resources out there, including Dr. Joel Moskowitz, who’s the director of the Berkeley School of Public Health. He’s got a great blog where he’s gathering a lot of resources on the subject. Environmental Health Trust by Dr. Devra Davis is a great resource as well. She was one of the first person to trigger the alarm on the subject of tobacco, and she’s done the same with wireless radiation.

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Now, before I ask you about 5G, which is a hot topic and we see it actually on TV every day, roll out of 5G, can you tell our listeners and viewers what the heck is 5G?

Arthur Calenge (24:26):
Yeah. 5G is essentially 4G but on steroids. 5G is very powerful short waves which are going to be able to power much, much faster internet. 5G is actually a synonym with a lot of technological innovation that are going to come our way as well, such as connected self-driving cars is one of the biggest innovation that is going to be powered by 5G. Because if you want to be self-driving, you need to have [inaudible 00:25:04] of information that transits through servers at an insanely fast rate. This is not possible with the current infrastructure that we have on a global scale. 5G is going to completely revolutionize the access to information that we have because we’re going to have access to an insanely faster internet than we have today with our cell phones. It’s actually a very exciting development from a technological perspective.
Now, the reason why 5G has been put into question by a lot of officials including, for instance, the city of Brussels, the capital of Belgium which have completely halted 5G development in the city, is because since it’s short waves that are very, very powerful, the amount of power delivered is much higher than what we have currently with 4G or 3G. This has been never tested on humans before, and so the fact of laying out 5G without testing this is kind of doing a big epidemiological studies on the entire population without really asking for their opinion. A lot of cities have halted 5G development, including in the States. In California, Mills Valley, which is one of the cities with the most venture capitalists, so the people who actually invest in technology, have banned 5G as well. There’s been a number of other instances because they’re essentially saying, “As long as we don’t have evidence as to what is happening with 5G and human health, we don’t want to expose our population to this issue.”

Dr. Gundry (26:59):
One of my cities, Santa Barbara, recently voted to delay or ban implementation of 5G. We have some of the worst cell phone service in the world anyhow. Now, some people say, “Well, 5G can’t go very far. It has very short traveling distance.” Number one, that’s a problem because you need lots of 5G towers on every building everywhere and that’s really expensive. Is that true?

Arthur Calenge (27:36):
Yes. Those people are very much right. On average, I think the number is that we’ll need about 50 times the amount of towers in order to power 5G than we do need with 4G. We’re likely to see a cell tower at every single corner of each block in every city if we want 5G coverage to be effective.
It’s a different type of wave. Again, it’s short waves, very powerful than 4G waves. Therefore, we need to install completely new towers which are going to come on top of the existing network of today. In order to fully cover the country, we’re going to have to install about 50 times the amount of current antennas that there are in the country, so effectively increasing our exposure very, very significantly to wireless radiation.

Dr. Gundry (28:49):
Recently talking to a government official. He says, though, when you see those commercials that we have the largest 5G network in the country and we cover the country with 5G, he’s saying that’s absolutely not true. Is that not true?

Arthur Calenge (29:11):
I’m not the best to answer this question, but I think, from the data I’ve got, that a lot of telecommunication providers ended up rebranding their 4G as 5G or some derivative of 5G in order to be the first to be offering 5G. But in a lot of cases, what would be branded as 5G is not proper 5G. Installation of 5G is just getting started, to the best of my understanding, and so there is still very little area of the country that have been equipped. I’m sure there are resources online that allow people to check where 5G has actually been installed.

Dr. Gundry (30:06):
He told me that even if it says 5G on your cell phone, he said don’t believe it. He says it’s a marketing thing. They can put-

Arthur Calenge (30:14):

Dr. Gundry (30:14):
… anything they want on there. So wait a minute. This thing is not rolled out. It may be in pockets. If 5G may be potentially bad, there’s still time for citizens to say, “Not for us.” Is that true? Can you stop big money?

Arthur Calenge (30:46):
To give you a sense of how powerful the telecommunication lobby is, I don’t remember the exact number but there is a great book by Joseph Mercola called EMF*D which gives a lot of information about the science and politics behind EMF radiation. I don’t remember the exact number so I don’t want to say something that is false, but the telecommunication lobby, in terms of money, has multiples the amount that the pharmaceutical industry has. And everyone knows the power of the pharmaceutical lobby already, so that gives a sense.
If you’re asking my opinion, I doubt that we’ll be able to stop rolling out 5G. But also, it also comes at a national priority for developing some of the technologies that are in the making. If we look at it from a worldwide perspective, if China is going to roll out 5G, there is very little chances that the US would stay on the sidelines and decide not to take the steps towards a more effective technology.
It’s not really an answer to the question that you’ve asked. Is there still time for citizens to act? Yes. Will we really be able to halt 5G? Probably not. Or at least, that’s my belief. I don’t mean to be carrying bad news, either, but the silver lining is 5G is going to bring a lot of technological developments to our communities as well. The other silver lining is there are ways to protect yourself.

Dr. Gundry (32:32):
What a great segue. Tell me all about Lambs. How did that get started? Then I want you to go beyond Lambs and say, “Okay, this stuff is already here.” How does one protect themselves? What steps can we all take? Let’s start with Lambs.

Arthur Calenge (32:56):
Before I start into the story of how Lambs got started, maybe the why is important. We’ve been chatting for the past half an hour about all the danger associated with EMF radiation, but what we haven’t touched on is all the amazingness that came with it. The ability to call a car from anywhere in the city that you are and that car can be driving you to the place of your choice, the ability to pull up Google Maps and know exactly where you are and where you’re going, the ability to call anyone on the planet and for us to be chatting in completely different cities at this speed and this quality of video, I mean I’m not going to get into everything else but the technology development and advances that have been brought by EMFs are absolutely amazing.
That’s why Lambs got started, because the people who started the company, we’re part of the Gen Y. We’ve been born with technology. We cannot picture our lives without our smart phones. At the same time, when looking at the research out there, when looking at the statistics, I personally was not willing to take the risk. I was not willing to take this chance of being like, “Well, we’ll see,” just like I’m not willing to get in a car and drive 80 miles per hour on the highway without a seatbelt. Because I’m not willing to see if I’m going to survive a crash if I don’t have a seatbelt. The reason why Lambs got started is because we wanted to offer people the ability to protect themselves from the potential adverse effects of this increasingly important exposure to EMF radiation without having to stop using technology and without having to change their habits.
As a side story, what my dad was asking me to do when I got my first cell phone was to carry it in my backpack. If you look at the statistics today, an average American checks his phone about 300 times a day. It’s way less convenient if you’re having a cell phone in your backpack and you’re checking it 300 times a day. Now, it might be a good way to get rid of the addiction that we have to our phones, but that’s another story.
With Lambs, we’ve developed a proprietary technology that blocks 99.9% of EMF radiation from reaching your body. That is directly integrated within everyday garments. We started with underwear. We have T-shirts, beanies, and we’re working on a variety of other products. The overall idea was that you wear underwear every day, or a lot of people do, and so if you simply replace your underwear for wave stopper-powered boxers, which are our products, or Faraday boxers, if you will, then you can keep on living your lives as modern men, or women when our women products will come out, without exposing yourself to the risks associated with exposure to EMF radiation.

Dr. Gundry (36:26):
So I don’t have to wear a Faraday box on my head or aluminum foil on my head? We mentioned when we started. What’s a Faraday box? I know people hear about this. What the heck is that?

Arthur Calenge (36:45):
The concept of a Faraday cage is also known as electromagnetic shielding, which essentially is using a physical principle in order to keep radiation either inside or outside of a specific area. The principle that is being used is that electromagnetic frequencies cannot penetrate a mesh of conductive fibers or a conductive grid if the holes of the grids are smaller than the wavelength of the radiation. That’s a mouthful, but just try and picture yourself going through a fence if the size of the holes of the fence are smaller than your head. It’s completely impossible, and so it is for electromagnetic radiation to penetrate this type of mesh.
A good example of a Faraday cage that you probably use every day is your microwave. If you look at your microwave, the door of your microwave has this aluminum grid. This is how they close the Faraday cage that is your microwave. That will keep the microwave radiation, which are, again, EMF, inside of the microwave instead of going out and exposing yourself, too.
Now, a lot of microwave are actually leaking. That’s another story. But we have used the same principle, which is essentially a tight mesh of conductive fibers put all around… And that is super important. It’s all around the object you’re trying to shield. In our case, the human body. This allows to block 99.9% of the wireless radiation. We’re using silver fibers in our products. We have a very, very tight mesh that we developed and patented that is integrated at 360 degrees around our products in order to offer a real protection from EMF.

Dr. Gundry (38:53):
I know you sent me a pair. I used them. Particularly when 5G comes out, you’re going to hope we’re all going to need your products for shirts, for hats, for trousers. Is that your hope?

Arthur Calenge (39:17):
Well, I don’t know if it’s my hope. I think we don’t need 5G to already be protecting ourselves.

Dr. Gundry (39:27):
So right now.

Arthur Calenge (39:27):
Yeah. I mean at the moment, once this interview’s over, I’m going to get up and put my cell phone in my pocket because that’s a regular habit of 99% of the population, probably. If you’re doing this, you’re much better off by doing this with boxers that would actually shield the radiation from reaching your body.
That’s how we view it. That’s just a very simple step that allows us to stop worrying about the potential adverse effects, especially longterm, that this exposure has. As of the moment, if the question that you’re asking me is who’s you’re target client, well essentially our mission with Lambs is to equip as many people as we can and to provide personal protective equipment to people in everyday apparel that is amazing to wear and that feels good and looks good as well.

Dr. Gundry (40:30):
There’s actually a paper I read, and I forget the authors, but they make the case that men in general will carry their cell phone in one front pocket or the other. They’re making the case that there is far more arthritis in the hip joint opposite the cell phone where it’s being carried. Interesting.

Arthur Calenge (40:57):
Yeah. There is a very famous biohacker, and I don’t know if he published those results so I don’t necessarily want to name hims just in case, but we were discussing with him… Biohackers, for the people who don’t necessarily know the terms, are a community of people who took the habit of measuring everything in their body from glucose levels to muscular growth to fat levels, literally everything, and kind of try and test a lot of things to see the effect. This person, who’s one of the fathers of biohacking, was telling us that he measured muscle growth in each of his legs when his cell phone is in his left pocket and realized that his left leg was growing less in terms of muscle, and then swapped the pockets and realized that it was doing the same thing with the right leg. Again, these are individual-

Dr. Gundry (41:59):

Arthur Calenge (42:00):
Individual results, anecdotal results. It cannot be translated to the entire population, but I find it to be interesting data, for sure.

Dr. Gundry (42:10):
How do we protect ourselves, other than getting your products, from EMF? What’s some steps we can do?

Arthur Calenge (42:19):
There are some super simple steps. I am not going to tell you to stop using technology. I am not going to tell you to go live in the woods. Because again, I personally love technology and I’m not willing to be… My computer is wired on wi-fi. I mean, it’s not wired. I’m on wi-fi because I’m not going to start carrying wires around.
Depending on whether you want to go extreme or not, here are a few simple steps that are not extreme at all. Put your cell phone on airplane mode at night, especially if you have it on your nightstand next to you. You’re most likely not going to take calls at night, and you can check your messages in the morning by taking off airplane mode. Please put it on airplane mode. That’s a super simple step.
Number two, similarly for your wi-fi, turn it off at night. You don’t need it. If you don’t want to have to think about it, you can buy a programming plug that would be off between, say, midnight and 6:00 AM or whatever your sleep patterns are and cut out [inaudible 00:43:28] radiation while you don’t think about it.
The last bit of advice I would give… Two more things. Once you get home, take your cell phone away from your pocket and put it on the table. You’ll hear it if it rings or if you get a message. Lastly, if you’re taking a phone call, I would strongly recommend not putting your cell phone against your ear, but rather either using corded headsets or using speaker mode.
These are super simple steps. Everyone can do them. You don’t need to buy any products for this and that would already significantly reduce your amount of exposure that you have on a daily basis.

Dr. Gundry (44:11):
My buddy, Dr. Mercola, and I talk about the benefits of magnesium in blunting the effects of EMF. Got any thoughts on that?

Arthur Calenge (44:22):
I think you guys are way more knowledgeable than I am on this, but it’s not the first time that I’m hearing this. I have yet to experiment with it and read more into it. I’m not qualified to answer that.

Dr. Gundry (44:39):
All right, all right. Art, it’s been great having you on the show. Couldn’t have been more timely. Where do listeners find out about Lambs? What are some good sources to learn… I know you’ve told us as went along… about EMFs in general?

Arthur Calenge (44:56):
In regards to Lambs, you can head out to our website, getlambs.com, G-E-T-L-A-M-B-S.com. You’ll find everything about our products over there. And then when it comes to sources about EMF, we do have assigned section in there which is probably biased anyway, so I would recommend that you rather head out to one of the following resources.
Dr. Mercola has an amazing book called EMF*D. Fantastic resource. I would highly recommend anyone to pick up a copy of his book. The Environmental Health Trust is a great organization which has compiled a lot of the scientific data as well as everything that’s going on in the field, really. They’re completely independent and unbiased. Dr. Joel Moskowitz also has a blog that he updates on a very regular basis. He is the director of the Berkeley School of Public Health. Very knowledgeable person as well.
These are a few resources that people can take in order to educate themselves a bit more. If they’re interested as well, a great read because it reads like a novel is the article The Inconvenient Truth about Cell Phone Radiation by Mark Dowie and Mark, I’m going to botch his name again, Hertsgaard on The Guardian is a great read, too.

Dr. Gundry (46:41):
That’s it for the Dr. Gundry Podcast. Art, thanks so much for coming on. Very useful information. Thanks a lot.

Arthur Calenge (46:49):
That was great. Thank you so much.

Dr. Gundry (46:51):
Now, it’s time for the review of the week.

Kimberly Snyder (46:56):
Welcome to the Feel Good Podcast with Kimberly Snyder. My goal is to help you develop a holistic lifestyle based on our four cornerstone philosophy, food, body, emotional wellbeing and spiritual growth. This holistic approach will help you feel good, which I define as being connected to your most authentic, highest self. This is the place from which your energy, confidence, creativity, true power and true beauty will start to explode.
Every week, we provide you with interviews from top experts in their field or a solo cast from yours truly to support you in living your most beautiful, healthy and joyful life. I’m your host, Kimberly Snyder, founder of Solluna, New York Times bestselling author and holistic wellness, nutrition and meditation teacher. Let’s get started.

Dr. Gundry (47:48):
In a recent coronavirus episode, I talked about how important it is to value the wisdom and knowledge of our elderly population. Well, it really struck a chord with listeners. Here’s what David [Favela 00:48:00] wrote on YouTube: “Dr. Gundry, thank you for what you do. It’s just amazing and no, you are not disposable and you won’t be. We need you around and we want you around. Keep teaching us, keep sharing and keep being the elderly who looks after us because we are shifting, thanks to you, to be well and be better. Sending you a hug with physical distance, laugh out loud. Be well, be safe.”
Well, I guess I’ve gotten to the point where I can be called the village elder instead of the village idiot. Thanks a lot, David. That means a lot to me. I’m going to keep looking out for you and keep watching. Thanks a lot.
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